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Hi. I need to get to Cincinnati and it's really cold outside.

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It's eight degrees Fahrenheit, which is about -13 Celsius right now.

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And I have one of those electric cars.

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This is a Hyundai Ioniq 5, it's a 2022.

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I've had it for four years at this point, and I'm going to document

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what the process looks like for driving in very cold weather,

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because there's still a lot of people out there

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who thinks this is either impossible or very hard.

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And I'm going to do this entirely manually.

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I'm not going to have my car

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tell me how to get to where I'm going.

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I'm not going to have my car pick chargers for me.

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I'm just going to do this

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all on my own, and I'm going to show you

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what my process for doing that is like.

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I've decided to make this video in two parts.

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First, I'm just going to show you the charging stations that I stopped at

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on the way there and on the way back

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as well as how long I spent charging

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to give you a sense of how this trip actually went.

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But then I'm going to start over and walk

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you through the process of choosing chargers

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and how to verify through the information

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the car shows you that you're going to be able to make it to that charger.

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I am not having the car make these decisions for me.

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I'm doing this entirely manually because quite frankly,

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I can do a better job than it can.

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But it is something to think about that

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a lot of people aren't necessarily used to yet.

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And so I'll show you that process.

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But again, first I'm just going to show you

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the actual end result of the trip.

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So let's get started.

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I started this trip with my car fully charged to 100%,

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which isn't something I typically do,
but because the weather is so cold,

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I wanted to squeeze all the range I could out of it

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to hopefully make it to Lafayette, Indiana as my first charging stop.

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And I made it just fine.

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Believe it or not, the charger activated on the first try,

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which for Electrify America is actually pretty amazing.

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So it has not started charging yet,

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but it should any moment now.

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It just takes a while for these chargers

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to start talking to the car because they're old.

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There we go.

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So now the question is

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how fast are we going to charge?

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The car is estimating it will take 25 minutes to get to 80%,

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which is slower than it should.

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It should be able to do that in 18.

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But 25 is still not bad.

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Okay, for those who may not have any familiarity

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with charging an electric car on a road trip,

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let me explain the 80% thing.

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You'll see that my car is quoting a remaining time of 25 minutes to 80%,

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but almost twice as long to get to 100%.

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Every electric car is like this.

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That's because the higher the state of charge a lithium ion battery is,

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the more slowly it can accept additional charge.

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And so the advice is always unplug at 80%

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and just accept that you aren't

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getting quite as much range as your car is capable of,

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simply because it's much faster to do it that way.

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My car is actually exceptionally quick

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at charging from 80 to 100%.

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Most other EVs can take 30, 40,

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sometimes up to an hour just to get that last 20%.

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My car only takes another 20 minutes or so if conditions are right.

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But still, why sit there for 20 minutes to gain

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just a little bit more battery charge?

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Just unplug and go to the next charger.

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So that's what I'm doing here.

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I just wanted to explain one thing with charging

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EVs on road trips is you're never really going to fill them up.

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You can if you want to, but you'll waste a lot of time.

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So you really just want to unplug at 80% and get going.

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Okay.

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I just finished eating my sandwich

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and I have found out where the next charging stop is going to be.

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And we're already at 74%.

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And actually, I can safely unplug right now

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because the next charger is only 86 miles away.

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As you may have seen from the dash cam clock,

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I pulled into this charging station at 
11:17 its time and I'm pulling out at 11:46,

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so total time spent here was about 29 minutes.

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I think the car was charging for 25 minutes of that.

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Pretty much exactly what it said.

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But between charger activation and programing

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in the next destination in my car

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spent an extra five minutes at the charging site, but

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our next and last charging stop is in Shelbyville, Indiana.

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And as I already said, it's not even 90 miles away.

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Shelbyville is just outside of Indianapolis, and, well, I'm

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actually only recording this
because I don't want to cut up the time lapse.

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I want you to see the whooole thing.

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Is that important?

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Not really, but, Yeah.

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So, we're almost there.

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This went by a lot slower in person, let me tell you.

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Okay. We're almost there.

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We're almost to Shelbyville.

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We're almost there.

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Aaaaaaaaannnnnnd

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okay we're there.

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I was really hoping my dash cam would record

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audio much better than it turned out to.

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I even tried that AI voice enhance thing, and it just, uh, it's real bad.

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So I have to rerecord a lot of everything.

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It's great.

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But anyway, this is a Pilot/Flying J station that I'm about to plug into here,

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and then I'll just give you a quick update as far as the charging speed

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I get once we're plugging in and how long I'm going to be here.

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Okay.
I just got back from using the bathroom.

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We are not getting the best charging speeds,

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but we're getting pretty good.

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16 minutes to 80% means, realistically,

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this is going to be about a 20 minute charge stop total.

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So I can definitely get to my destination

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once we are at 80%, meaning

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I spent, I think I looked it up.

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The total drive time was just shy of five hours,

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and we spent 45 minutes charging.

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I don't think that's a very big deal myself.

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You can disagree, but extending a five hour drive

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by 45 minutes is really not that big of a deal, guys.

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The first charging stop, I was eating my sandwich

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and by the time I was done, I was ready to move on.

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This charging stop, I'm not eating anything so I will be waiting on the car,

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but I'm only waiting about 15, 20 minutes.

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No big deal.

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As before, I'll point out the dash cam showed

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the time was 1:05 when I pulled in to charge, and it's showing 1:26 as I'm leaving.

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So I spent pretty much 21 minutes at this charging stop,

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and now I am on my way to my destination.

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Well, I made it 38% state of charge still.

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That is a very pessimistic number, 59 miles of range.

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But it has been a very pessimistic day.

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But we did manage to click up to 2.4 miles per kilowatt hour.

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So we're getting a little bit better efficiency
in this last 90 mile leg.

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But I am here and,

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I saw a couple of chargers on the way here.

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So I am totally set no matter what happens.

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So I'm going to check in with you tomorrow morning

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when I head back, but for now.

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Mission accomplished.

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Now, when it comes to where I'm going to charge at my destination,

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well, there are many different options available,

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but the one I chose was this:

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Hello and good morning.

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I did end up staying at a hotel, and I looked for a hotel

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that had EV chargers as a perk, and this one does.

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Did you know hotels have electricity?

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It's pretty wild.

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And the smarter hotel managers 
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out to at least a few parking spots.

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That way, people like me who have electric cars

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are more willing to stay at this hotel.

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They probably lost about $10 on me from the electricity that I used,

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but they gained 150 bucks from me for the room rate.

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So, you know, they got 140 bucks out of me

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that they would not have if they didn't have those chargers.

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So... just pointing that out, that smart business people

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that like money and people to give them money

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should be offering perks

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like electric vehicle charging.

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But anyway, because I stayed here overnight,

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my car is now at 100%.

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Well, I went out to put something back in the car

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and it was at 98%.

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But at this point, it is now at 100% for sure.

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I didn't even need it to charge that high,

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because I just need to get back to.

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What was that,

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Shelbyville, Indiana?

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But, you know, I might as well,

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because then that shortens the charging time in Shelbyville.

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I might only be charging there for ten minutes

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this morning or this evening.

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I'm not leaving until around four, but we'll find out.

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Yeah, that was a little optimistic.

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I'm not going to bother showing all the time

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lapse footage on the reverse trip,

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because it literally is just the reverse trip.

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Although there's a small twist which I will get to in a moment.

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But I just want to point out that I spent 20 minutes charging here.

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It still wasn't a very long time at all.

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And then I moved on to a different charging station

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than the one that I stopped at on the way back, because, well,

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you'll see soon that the weather is getting worse.

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It's getting much colder, and the winds are picking up.

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And the fact that it took

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almost all the battery pack for me to get from home to Lafayette meant

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it would not work to get from Lafayette back home,

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so I ended up charging at a charger

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farther away from here in Shelbyville.

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That way I wouldn't have to stop twice.

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Except ultimately I did make two charging stops,

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but not because I needed to.

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I did it just in case.

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I'm going to talk more about this

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in the second half of the video, but Plug Share,

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which is the app I'm using to find these chargers,

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had indicated that there was an issue with the charger

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in Remington, Indiana, which is where I wanted to stop.

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And although the app showed me that they were all online right now,

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given the weather, I was a little bit paranoid 
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to give myself enough charge to where if I got to Remington

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and it turned out those charges weren't working,

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I wouldn't be stuck there because the gap between Remington

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and Chicagoland is quite large.

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So if I were stuck in Remington,

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if those chargers weren't working, I would have been stuck.

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So I decided to stop in Lafayette to give myself enough charge

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to get to Remington and back, just in case there was an issue.

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Turned out there wasn't an issue,

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so I didn't need to stop in Lafayette after all.

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But I did just in case.

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Okay. Good news:

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We made it here to, Remington.

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This is actually a canopy charging site.

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The car is plugged in, and it's just still negotiating the charger.

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Bad news:

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I saw the worst efficiency I've ever seen on this leg in this car.

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It was down to 1.8 miles per kilowatt hour.

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This is the stretch with all the wind turbines, and it is windy.

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And of course, they are facing the wrong direction now.

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I'm driving into the wind again.

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So we are charging

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and it thinks it's only going to be 20 minutes to 80%.

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So the battery pack must be pretty warm.

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Let's see where we get.

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We're over 100 already.

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That's pretty good

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for only 20 minutes to 80%.

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That's very close to this thing's max charging speed.

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So I really can't complain about the charging speed.

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It's just the range has dropped a lot because of how cold it is.

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But now I think I'm only

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about 100 miles from my home.

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And so long as I'm only 100 miles from home,

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80% is...

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quite safe.

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I cannot imagine a situation

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where an 80% charge can't get this car to go 100 miles.

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That would effectively be a 50% range drop

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'cause 100%...

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what would that be 120 miles, basically?

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So yeah.

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I cannot imagine if I get to 80%

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I'm not going to be able to get home just fine.

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So I'm just going to sit here until we're at 80%,

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and then I'm going to get going.

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I will see you, probably

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I'm just going to check in when I'm home.

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Unless there are issues.

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Were there issues?

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Nope!

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Made it home just fine.

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And I arrived with 21% state of charge.

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I ended up charging up to 85% in Remington

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just to give me that extra buffer, because, you know,

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the weather was really bad,

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but that wasn't even necessary.

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I got home with 21%, and because I have a charging station,

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I'm just going to plug into that, walk inside and go to bed.

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But now let's rewind to the start

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so I can explain what I'm going through

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as I make this happen.

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And I'm going to start by addressing battery preconditioning,

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because this is the weak spot of EVs,

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and it is particularly a weak spot of my car.

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So first, what is battery preconditioning?

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Well, if you were picking up on me,

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talking about the charging speeds after I plugged in,

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it is not safe to charge a lithium ion battery pack quickly

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when the battery cells are cold.

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And in weather like this, that means you get an extremely slow charge.

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Now, engineers are smart, and what they did was

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they added a battery pack heater.

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So the car has the ability to warm up the battery pack

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as you are approaching a DC fast charger

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to make sure that those battery cells are nice and warm,

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and it can charge as fast as possible.

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Any decent electric car does that these days,

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and that is why the winter road trip is no longer

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that painful of a process.

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However.

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although Hyundai equipped these cars

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with the hardware, they need to warm the battery pack.

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The software which controls that feature

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is, pardon my French, batshit.

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Hyundai needs to fix this because right now

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this car is an absolute

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pain in the butt to use in this specific case,

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because I have to trick it into thinking I'm

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going to a charging station.

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Let's back up.

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So some electric car manufacturers out there

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decided that the best approach is to hand hold their drivers,

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and you are supposed to just put in a destination.

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And because the automaker owns all of the charging network,

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it will just pick every single charging stop for you

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and you just follow its instructions.

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Now, because so much of the automotive industry

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has decided that they need to copy that approach,
that's what Hyundai did.

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But you see,

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there's all these new chargers that are showing up every day,

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and I am no longer paying to connect my car to the internet.

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In fact, I've never paid for it

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because I think that's kind of a silly thing.

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I have a smartphone with me, and I can plug it into my car,

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and it can take over my car's infotainment screen,
and it's really great.

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We had this technology called Apple CarPlay and Android Auto.

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It's great, except GM's trying to kill it because they don't like it.

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They want anyway.

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my point is, I don't want to use the car's navigation system.

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I want to pick chargers myself.

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Because any time somebody builds this feature into a car,

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it gets really clunky to do things like say,

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oh, I want to prioritize this charging network,

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or oh, I don't want to use that specific charger.

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So rather than have to go through all that rigmarole,

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I would rather just decide where to charge.

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And so that is what I do.

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But because the car will not battery pre-condition

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unless it knows I am navigating to a charger,

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I do have to use its navigation system

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and oftentimes I have to enter charging stations which don't exist.

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It is incredibly dumb.

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Here's an example of what I mean.

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I have a friend who lives in Madison, Wisconsin, and on the way there,

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there is an ion station in Janesville, Wisconsin,

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and that's the one that I want to stop at.

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But my car doesn't know that charging station is there.

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So when I make trips up there in the winter, I have to tell it.

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I'm stopping at a blink station near there,

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which I'm pretty sure no longer exists,

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but that's the only charging station my car knows about.

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And this is just so dumb.

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I just want a button that I can press

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that says start battery preconditioning

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because I do not need my car to navigate

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on the way to a place I know where to go.

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I just want to be able to tell it, start preconditioning the battery.

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And in case it's not clear, this is irrelevant in warmer weather.

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The only reason you have to do

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this is because it's cold and warm weather.

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You don't bother with this at all, just drive to a charger.

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But my car really needs the battery pack to be at least like, 70°F.

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So even in the middle of spring,

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charging isn't exactly as fast

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as it could be unless you battery precondition.

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And I am just so mad at Hyundai

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for selling me a car which has this critical feature

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that I have to trick the car into turning on.

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It's incredibly dumb.

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They deserve a lot of shame for this.

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And until they patch the software, which, by the way,
we know they can do

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because when I got the car, the infotainment system

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could not turn on battery preconditioning at all.

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And then it got a software update and now it can.

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So it is totally possible for them to add a button,

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but they just haven't bothered.

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And I'm going to keep getting on their case about this

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until they fix the problem,

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because we really need to stop tolerating any sort of company,

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but especially car companies selling products that are not finished.

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Thanks, Tesla,

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you ruined the industry for letting them think that's normal.

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But anyway, if you're a person like me

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who wants to make his own decisions and use his own brain,

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then there is some strategizing when it comes to picking chargers.

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And if you don't know where chargers are,

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you should check out the Plug Share app.

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Or I believe they have a website.

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This is a great resource to understand what chargers are in your area,

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and you can filter them by connector type as well as their power output.

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And in the case of my car, I now have the Nax adapter

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so I can look for any CC, S1

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or next charging station.

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However, I do not want to use Tesla Superchargers,

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and not just because I have a preference to avoid them, but in my car

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they are very, very slow because again, I don't.

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A lot of people can't stand that.

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I sound like I'm Tesla bashing all the time.

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But seriously, it is 2026 and Tesla now has last.

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I checked for 800 volt capable

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charging stations in the entire world.

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And because my car is an 800 volt native car,

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it charges very slowly on 400 volt infrastructure,

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which is almost everything Tesla has.

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They are so behind on charging infrastructure,

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but the broader public just doesn't really seem to know that.

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But anyway.

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If you're like me and you want to make your own decisions

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and pick your own chargers,

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you do need to know how far your car can actually go on a charge,

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and that varies a lot depending on the weather.

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That's kind of the whole point of this exercise.

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But one thing that I would really encourage

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you to do is to not dwell so much on this,

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because what you can do is just get going

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and then see what the conditions are actually like.

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And that's exactly what I'm doing here.

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I picked that charger in Lafayette

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because that's an easy distance for my car

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to do in the summer, but it's going to be a little bit dicey today.

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And I also already was aware of the charging station in Remington.

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So that was going to be a bailout.

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But that's not even important yet.

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What is important is I had my car charged at 100%,

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and I'm going to get going today.

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And after we've been driving for 50 miles

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once, once I'm out of, city traffic

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and I'm on the open road.

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It's very easy to assess what sort of range

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your car is realistically going to get.

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There's several different ways to do this,

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and I'm going to start with the easiest one,

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which isn't the most accurate.

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However, you're using a navigation system,

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whether that's an app or the car's built in navigation system.

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You're going to put in a destination

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and you'll have a figure which tells you miles to go.

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And the car also has a range estimator, which tells you

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how many miles it thinks you can go on this charge.

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Now, the very important thing to remember is that is an estimate.

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That is why I say this is the least accurate.

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But this is actually really useful

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because if you compare the difference between those two numbers,

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you can just keep track of that distance to see

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if you're getting worse energy efficiency

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or better energy efficiency than the car expects.

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So, for example, if it tells me

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I have 150 miles to go until I get to the charger

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and I have 180 miles of range,

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then the difference between those two numbers is 30 miles.

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So as I drive, I'm just going to keep watching those two numbers

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and doing a bit of mental subtraction to see what the difference is.

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If the difference between those two numbers is getting smaller,

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that means I'm using range up faster than the car expected,

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and I might want to slow down, which will increase your range

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or consider picking a closer charger.

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However, if the numbers are getting farther apart,

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that means conditions are better than the car expected
and you can relax.

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I honestly use this method quite a lot,

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but particularly with winter driving,

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it can catch you off guard because of battery preconditioning.

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When the car decides to turn on the battery heater,

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which is typically when you're about 45 minutes

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to an hour away from the charging station.

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That battery heater consumes 4.5kW,

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which isn't huge in the context of the car,

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but it's still quite significant.

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And that means your energy efficiency is going to start dropping

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quite quickly once it turns on that battery heater.

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If the car is doing its own navigation for you,

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it should account for this.

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But you know, I don't really trust any car software these days,

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so I am normally watching things pretty closely.

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But just to give you some context,

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if a 4.5kW heater is running for an entire hour,

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that only represents about 7% of the car's battery pack capacity.

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So it's not a gigantic thing,

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but it is something that can catch you off guard,

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because those efficiency numbers are going to change

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as soon as the battery heater kicks on.

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Now, the more accurate way to gauge

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your driving efficiency is to actually look at the energy efficiency.

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Every car is going to have a different way to show you this,

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but the important metric is miles or kilometers,

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depending on where you are per kilowatt hour.

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Right here on this screen,

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the car is telling me how many miles per kilowatt hour

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the car has averaged in the last 89.5 miles,

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and it's only averaging 2.3, which is really bad.

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This was the moment that the car turned on the battery pack heater.

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I snapped a photo of it.

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Now the efficiency was so bad.

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Not really because it's 18°F outside.

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That's not that big of a factor.

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It was just I was driving into a headwind

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and it was quite nasty.

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This is why I say just get going and see what the conditions are.

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After a while,
I going to be able to get a pretty accurate representation

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of I'm getting 2.3 miles per kilowatt hour.

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And if you want to equate that to actual range, well,

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the car has a 75 kilowatt hour battery pack roughly.

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So you can multiply a 75 by 2.3.

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And then that's your answer.

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It's going to be 180 ish miles.

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But remember that is assuming the efficiency stays the same.

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And since I just turned on the battery pack, well,

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since the car just turned on the battery pack heater,

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the efficiency is going to drop.

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And that is why when we actually got to the charging station,

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the actual average energy efficiency

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ended up being 2.1 miles per kilowatt hour,

499
00:23:36,466 --> 00:23:39,166
which again is quite poor for this car.

500
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,800
But a good point two of that was simply

501
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,133
because the car was heating up the battery pack.

502
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,933
I haven't mentioned it yet, but the thing about battery

503
00:23:47,933 --> 00:23:51,733
preconditioning is it's to save you time, not energy,

504
00:23:52,066 --> 00:23:55,366
because the car is less energy efficient when it does that.

505
00:23:55,866 --> 00:23:57,800
But if it didn't do that,

506
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,666
I would be plugged into the charger for probably like an hour.

507
00:24:00,866 --> 00:24:02,166
As soon as you plug it into a DC

508
00:24:02,166 --> 00:24:04,600
fast charger, it's going to start heating up the battery pack.

509
00:24:04,866 --> 00:24:08,666
But the fact that it takes almost an hour for that to happen

510
00:24:08,666 --> 00:24:11,666
means you don't get that much help out of it.

511
00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:14,300
So you really want to have the preconditioning start

512
00:24:14,900 --> 00:24:17,033
a solid 45 minutes to an hour

513
00:24:17,033 --> 00:24:19,966
before you are expecting to hit the charging station.

514
00:24:20,433 --> 00:24:23,933
Now I'm going to cut to me back then with some thoughts.

515
00:24:25,133 --> 00:24:26,066
got back from the store.

516
00:24:26,066 --> 00:24:28,333
We are charging at nearly 200kW,

517
00:24:28,333 --> 00:24:32,633
which is almost as fast as this car can go, so that's great.

518
00:24:32,633 --> 00:24:35,600
I was a little worried because when I left to go into the store,

519
00:24:36,066 --> 00:24:39,000
the time estimate suddenly became like 32 minutes

520
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,566
and I was like, oh great, is this this charger being bad?

521
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,033
But I don't know why that happened.

522
00:24:44,166 --> 00:24:47,333
The charger is able to sustain 200kW just fine.

523
00:24:47,900 --> 00:24:50,033
The reason why I say that is because that's in question

524
00:24:50,033 --> 00:24:52,933
with, good old Electrify America,

525
00:24:52,966 --> 00:24:55,066
especially with this old charging hardware.

526
00:24:55,066 --> 00:24:58,133
But it appears to still be going just fine

527
00:24:58,833 --> 00:25:01,033
and will be out of here probably

528
00:25:01,633 --> 00:25:03,766
when it originally estimated we'll be out of here.

529
00:25:03,766 --> 00:25:06,300
So I also want to point out I'm

530
00:25:06,300 --> 00:25:08,366
going to sit here and eat the sandwich I just bought.

531
00:25:09,133 --> 00:25:12,033
So I'm really hardly waiting at all.

532
00:25:12,366 --> 00:25:13,566
And if I wanted to,

533
00:25:13,566 --> 00:25:15,933
I could turn the car on while it's charging and have it

534
00:25:15,933 --> 00:25:17,133
keep the cabin warm.

535
00:25:17,533 --> 00:25:18,633
I'm not going to bother doing that

536
00:25:18,633 --> 00:25:20,733
just because the cabin's pretty warm as it is.

537
00:25:21,466 --> 00:25:23,966
And there are circumstances where that can slow down.

538
00:25:23,966 --> 00:25:24,833
Charging in my car.

539
00:25:24,833 --> 00:25:26,500
I've never really noticed that happen, but,

540
00:25:27,300 --> 00:25:29,200
you know, I'm perfectly fine to

541
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,666
just let it sit here off while I'm in the car

542
00:25:32,466 --> 00:25:33,966
and I'm going to enjoy my sandwich.

543
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,766
And while I'm sitting here, let me flip this around here.

544
00:25:37,833 --> 00:25:41,666
While I'm sitting here, I am now going to plan my next charging stop.

545
00:25:41,666 --> 00:25:43,600
So I know that we were only able

546
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,000
to go about 140 miles in this weather,

547
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,900
starting from 100% charge, and then we got down to 15%.

548
00:25:50,633 --> 00:25:53,233
I'm only charging up to 80% right now,

549
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,700
so I'm going to look for a charging station,

550
00:25:55,700 --> 00:25:58,133
which is a something like 100 miles away.

551
00:25:58,133 --> 00:25:59,933
And I'm going to as I said earlier,

552
00:25:59,933 --> 00:26:02,100
I'm going to plan a bail out station,

553
00:26:02,100 --> 00:26:04,566
which is even closer than that, just in case

554
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,533
the weather really is this bad the whole way.

555
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,400
I don't expect it to be, but it could be.

556
00:26:11,700 --> 00:26:13,900
I'm just surprised because I'm going southeast

557
00:26:13,900 --> 00:26:15,633
and I appear to be going into the wind.

558
00:26:16,466 --> 00:26:18,066
So what's almost certainly going to happen

559
00:26:18,066 --> 00:26:19,433
is on my way back,

560
00:26:19,666 --> 00:26:22,066
I'll be going into the wind again because that's just my luck.

561
00:26:22,066 --> 00:26:24,600
But regardless, the whole point I'm

562
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,900
trying to make with this video is that I'm being slowed down

563
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,933
a little bit on this trip with this cold weather

564
00:26:32,933 --> 00:26:34,266
is really not that significant.

565
00:26:34,266 --> 00:26:37,866
The biggest issue is just dealing with my cars very bad software,

566
00:26:37,866 --> 00:26:39,833
which Hyundai should be royally ashamed of,

567
00:26:39,833 --> 00:26:41,533
and I'm going to keep being a thorn in their side

568
00:26:41,533 --> 00:26:43,433
about until they give us that button.

569
00:26:44,100 --> 00:26:44,633
Okay.

570
00:26:44,633 --> 00:26:46,900
I just finished eating my sandwich

571
00:26:46,900 --> 00:26:50,066
and I have found out where the next charging stop is going to be.

572
00:26:50,533 --> 00:26:52,433
And we're already at 74%.

573
00:26:52,433 --> 00:26:55,266
And actually, I can safely unplug right now

574
00:26:55,266 --> 00:26:58,366
because the next charger is only 86 miles away.

575
00:26:58,966 --> 00:27:01,733
I am going to now program that in.

576
00:27:02,033 --> 00:27:02,600
Let's see.

577
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,133
It was in Shelbyville, Indiana.

578
00:27:04,133 --> 00:27:06,366
This is the terrible nonsense I have to do.

579
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,833
I'm going to go ahead and cancel this route.

580
00:27:13,666 --> 00:27:14,866
Let's see.

581
00:27:18,033 --> 00:27:21,200
Let's just pick somewhere in Shelbyville, Indiana.

582
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,866
Is there maybe a Walmart there or something?

583
00:27:29,100 --> 00:27:29,500
Let's just.

584
00:27:29,500 --> 00:27:31,266
Look, I just have to search for a place there.

585
00:27:32,100 --> 00:27:33,000
Sure.

586
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,200
I'm going to tell the car, take me there.

587
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,366
But then as it's routing, I'm going to say, let's add a stop.

588
00:27:40,733 --> 00:27:42,633
And then we're going to add a stop.

589
00:27:42,900 --> 00:27:46,566
The nearby charging station by the destination.

590
00:27:47,133 --> 00:27:47,500
Okay.

591
00:27:47,500 --> 00:27:50,000
I ended up picking a charging station in the wrong spot.

592
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,566
So that's why I'm starting over here.

593
00:27:51,566 --> 00:27:54,266
But I just want to chime in and say I am

594
00:27:54,266 --> 00:27:57,033
not sure this is the way you have to do this,

595
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,433
but any time I have selected to

596
00:27:59,433 --> 00:28:02,433
just take me to a charger like I did this twice

597
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,766
and it did not start preconditioning, both times.

598
00:28:05,966 --> 00:28:09,833
So the only way that I have made sure it always starts preconditioning

599
00:28:10,100 --> 00:28:13,200
is to navigate to somewhere near

600
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,566
to a charger that I know exists

601
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:20,400
and then say add, stop and search for a close by charger,

602
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,566
which is at least 150kW.

603
00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:25,300
It's so bad.

604
00:28:25,300 --> 00:28:28,100
But anyway, that's what I'm going through here,

605
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,766
and I have to find the charging station that I meant to look for.

606
00:28:31,766 --> 00:28:33,200
I just picked the wrong town.

607
00:28:33,466 --> 00:28:35,600
Yeah. It was.

608
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,500
I picked a pilot station, which wasn't where I wanted to go.

609
00:28:39,233 --> 00:28:40,466
Well, this is what we're doing.

610
00:28:41,966 --> 00:28:43,333
This is the closest EV

611
00:28:43,333 --> 00:28:46,000
charging station to where I want to know that it knows about.

612
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,866
And it's a high enough speed of charging that it should precondition.

613
00:28:50,133 --> 00:28:53,266
So I'm going to tell it I'm going to add this charging station,

614
00:28:53,266 --> 00:28:54,766
which may or may not even exist,

615
00:28:54,766 --> 00:28:56,833
but we're going to add that charging station to the route.

616
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,066
We're going to have it take us there.

617
00:28:59,366 --> 00:29:00,933
And I'm not going to listen to the car.

618
00:29:00,966 --> 00:29:03,200
I'm going to have Waze or Google Maps

619
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,600
or whatever you want to use on my phone, actually navigate me

620
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,666
to the charging station we're going to, which is a flying game.

621
00:29:08,666 --> 00:29:10,233
But at this point we can unplug.

622
00:29:10,233 --> 00:29:12,033
We're actually at 82% already,

623
00:29:12,433 --> 00:29:13,366
and I'm going to move on

624
00:29:13,366 --> 00:29:16,966
to the next charging stop,
which is either going to be the last or second

625
00:29:16,966 --> 00:29:18,866
to last, depending on what things look like.

626
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,566
I'll let you know in a moment.

627
00:29:20,566 --> 00:29:25,000
And now enjoy the lovely dash cam audio for this segment.

628
00:29:25,633 --> 00:29:26,633
Oh, this is the exit.

629
00:29:26,633 --> 00:29:29,133
Does that sign show EV charging on there now?

630
00:29:30,033 --> 00:29:31,166
It does.

631
00:29:31,166 --> 00:29:33,233
Good. I've noticed they're putting that on there.

632
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,200
That's good to know.

633
00:29:36,333 --> 00:29:37,933
I would love to have, like,

634
00:29:38,233 --> 00:29:41,600
the sign that shows you the gas and diesel price to tell you

635
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,566
the price in miles per kilowatt hour, but

636
00:29:44,266 --> 00:29:46,200
I mean, dollars per kilowatt hour cents.

637
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,733
Really like one mile.

638
00:29:48,466 --> 00:29:49,400
We're not there yet.

639
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,700
We'll get there soon and Okay,

640
00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:53,000
so what I was saying earlier,

641
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,600
the car is going to keep being mad at me is that this can absolutely

642
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,366
be my last charging stop before my destination.

643
00:30:00,033 --> 00:30:04,733
The question just becomes, where do I want to charge when I'm there?

644
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:06,466
And can I?

645
00:30:06,466 --> 00:30:08,666
Because I may be able to charge overnight.

646
00:30:08,666 --> 00:30:11,100
I am spending the night in Cincinnati,

647
00:30:11,466 --> 00:30:13,933
but I am not entirely sure yet

648
00:30:13,933 --> 00:30:15,133
where I am staying.

649
00:30:16,833 --> 00:30:18,466
I haven't even booked a hotel or anything

650
00:30:18,466 --> 00:30:20,966
because I might be staying with friends, but I'm not sure yet.

651
00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:23,766
Anyway, what's important

652
00:30:23,766 --> 00:30:27,466
is that if I wanted to charge somewhere else, I totally can.

653
00:30:29,033 --> 00:30:31,533
There are fast charging options near my destination.

654
00:30:32,433 --> 00:30:34,866
So I'm going to look into that while I'm charging here.

655
00:30:34,900 --> 00:30:37,800
But here we are at the pilot flying J.

656
00:30:38,166 --> 00:30:40,800
all right, so I just double checked and I am indeed

657
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,800
only about 90 miles from my destination.

658
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,533
So despite the terrible efficiency

659
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,366
we have had on this trip so far,

660
00:30:48,966 --> 00:30:50,233
thanks to all this wind,

661
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,966
I don't need to charge again.

662
00:30:53,533 --> 00:30:56,466
Now. There are several charging options in town

663
00:30:56,466 --> 00:30:58,100
near where I am going to be.

664
00:30:59,233 --> 00:31:01,000
But I don't know yet

665
00:31:01,033 --> 00:31:03,766
whether or not I'm going to exercise those options

666
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,133
because I may be staying overnight somewhere that I can charge.

667
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,466
But I don't know yet for sure.

668
00:31:11,433 --> 00:31:11,766
Really.

669
00:31:11,766 --> 00:31:14,200
This whole trip is very just flying by the seat of my pants.

670
00:31:14,666 --> 00:31:15,933
But I don't need to do that.

671
00:31:15,966 --> 00:31:20,533
Again,
the thing that's kind of confusing, and I'm noticing it's almost.

672
00:31:20,900 --> 00:31:22,833
It's interesting how as it's getting easier,

673
00:31:22,833 --> 00:31:24,400
some things are getting more confusing.

674
00:31:24,900 --> 00:31:28,466
I can absolutely treat this car like a gas powered car at this point.

675
00:31:28,933 --> 00:31:30,933
If the battery is cold soaked,

676
00:31:30,933 --> 00:31:32,300
like if it's actually cold

677
00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:35,300
and I just plug it into a DC charger, it's going to charge

678
00:31:35,966 --> 00:31:38,033
stupidly slow. But

679
00:31:39,133 --> 00:31:40,333
this means that

680
00:31:40,566 --> 00:31:45,000
I can just get to my destination with 30% state of charge.

681
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,900
Pretend it's like a third of a tank of gas,

682
00:31:47,333 --> 00:31:49,666
and I got plenty of range to fart around town,

683
00:31:49,666 --> 00:31:51,900
and then I just need to charge somewhere before I head back.

684
00:31:51,933 --> 00:31:55,133
Or if there's a charging station, like on my way back

685
00:31:55,133 --> 00:31:57,366
just 20 miles outside of town, I'll stop there.

686
00:31:58,100 --> 00:32:01,633
But I also have the option to, for instance,

687
00:32:01,900 --> 00:32:05,333
stay at a hotel that offers EV charging as an amenity

688
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,600
and I can plug it into a level two charger
overnight and charge that way.

689
00:32:10,166 --> 00:32:12,433
And by the way, even if you're parked outside,

690
00:32:12,933 --> 00:32:15,000
if you are plugged into a level two charger

691
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,100
that is like five kilowatts or greater.

692
00:32:17,100 --> 00:32:19,933
So that's like virtually any public charger you're going to find.

693
00:32:20,866 --> 00:32:21,966
You're not going to notice it.

694
00:32:21,966 --> 00:32:25,400
It's the battery the car might end up using,

695
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,900
maybe like a kilowatt of power to keep its battery

696
00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:30,066
pack warm in extreme, extreme cold,

697
00:32:30,566 --> 00:32:33,833
but it still has four kilowatts to actually charge the battery.

698
00:32:35,166 --> 00:32:37,566
You're really not going to notice it being slowed down at all,

699
00:32:37,866 --> 00:32:40,400
and the battery doesn't need to be anywhere near

700
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,966
as warm as the car's been trying to get it to charge quickly

701
00:32:42,966 --> 00:32:45,366
just to charge, the fastest

702
00:32:45,366 --> 00:32:48,633
AC charging rate this car supports, which is about 11kW.

703
00:32:49,266 --> 00:32:50,800
In the context of a battery pack.

704
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,000
This big is a trickle. Charge it.

705
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:53,933
It's irrelevant.

706
00:32:53,933 --> 00:32:56,600
It does not matter that it's perfectly safe

707
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,033
to charge the battery at that speed

708
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,000
at practically any temperature.

709
00:33:01,700 --> 00:33:03,933
But anyway, I'm just giving you some context there.

710
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,733
The only real inconvenience if I stop somewhere in Cincinnati

711
00:33:07,900 --> 00:33:09,666
park overnight and don't charge,

712
00:33:09,666 --> 00:33:12,433
is that if I plug in to a charging station in the morning

713
00:33:12,433 --> 00:33:14,866
with a cold battery, it's going to be very slow,

714
00:33:15,700 --> 00:33:16,866
but I can still do it.

715
00:33:16,866 --> 00:33:18,133
And once the car is plugged

716
00:33:18,133 --> 00:33:20,966
in, it's going to start heating the battery pack up as soon as it can.

717
00:33:21,466 --> 00:33:22,900
But I have done this before.

718
00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:25,000
The car had battery preconditioning software,

719
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,066
and it does truly become like the theoretical 18 minutes

720
00:33:29,066 --> 00:33:33,566
becomes 45 minutes to up to an hour

721
00:33:33,566 --> 00:33:35,333
if the battery is really, really cold.

722
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,800
But that's the first charge of the day

723
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,300
from then on out, the battery pack is going to be fairly warm.

724
00:33:40,300 --> 00:33:41,500
You don't have to deal with that.

725
00:33:42,133 --> 00:33:46,233
I hope that makes sense, but I'm already at 71% state of charge.

726
00:33:46,666 --> 00:33:50,400
Which is enough to get where I'm going for sure,

727
00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:53,133
but I will let it get up to 80% just to give me that

728
00:33:53,133 --> 00:33:54,333
bit of buffer.

729
00:33:54,333 --> 00:33:57,100
Since the winds today have just been awful.

730
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,566
Awful, awful.

731
00:33:58,566 --> 00:34:02,433
The last leg averaged just 2.1 miles per kilowatt hour, which is

732
00:34:03,533 --> 00:34:05,766
I thought it would improve because it's getting warmer

733
00:34:05,766 --> 00:34:08,733
and we had a little bit of snow there, but it's also getting sunnier.

734
00:34:09,166 --> 00:34:12,100
But it's just I'm driving almost directly into the wind right now,

735
00:34:12,233 --> 00:34:13,633
which stinks.

736
00:34:14,833 --> 00:34:16,633
That does mean every other car out

737
00:34:16,633 --> 00:34:18,233
there is getting significantly worse

738
00:34:18,233 --> 00:34:20,833
fuel economy, but they don't necessarily notice it

739
00:34:20,833 --> 00:34:24,700
because it doesn't impact the range as drastically
as it impacts this car.

740
00:34:25,366 --> 00:34:27,166
But again, I'm just going to say, as I've said

741
00:34:27,733 --> 00:34:29,266
probably dozens of times now

742
00:34:30,333 --> 00:34:33,566
for five hours of driving, I had to stop two times

743
00:34:33,766 --> 00:34:36,166
and spend 45 minutes charging the car.

744
00:34:37,700 --> 00:34:38,700
I really

745
00:34:38,700 --> 00:34:44,366
we didn't even increase the time of this trip by more than 20%.

746
00:34:45,233 --> 00:34:46,300
It's not a big deal.

747
00:34:46,300 --> 00:34:49,133
And since I spend literally zero time

748
00:34:49,133 --> 00:34:50,966
going to gas stations in my day to day

749
00:34:50,966 --> 00:34:53,433
life on net, I'm almost certainly ahead.

750
00:34:53,933 --> 00:34:56,033
But I don't even think you need to care about that.

751
00:34:56,033 --> 00:34:59,666
Just consider the context of I'm driving

752
00:34:59,666 --> 00:35:03,166
five hours today to get to Cincinnati from Chicago,

753
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,300
and I only needed to, but I crossed the entire state of Indiana.

754
00:35:07,866 --> 00:35:10,600
I'm still in it now, but I'm almost to Cincinnati,

755
00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:11,800
and I will have crossed

756
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,200
the entire state of Indiana in the middle of winter

757
00:35:14,533 --> 00:35:16,566
when it's well below freezing,

758
00:35:16,966 --> 00:35:19,233
and I took two charges and 45 minutes of

759
00:35:19,233 --> 00:35:21,300
time is really not a big deal

760
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,400
that there's people who think that's a big deal to them.

761
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,566
That's fine.

762
00:35:24,566 --> 00:35:26,900
We very much disagree on

763
00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:29,766
what is a big deal,

764
00:35:30,233 --> 00:35:32,433
but you're allowed to disagree.

765
00:35:32,433 --> 00:35:34,966
I just think if you're actually honest,

766
00:35:35,666 --> 00:35:38,833
a less than 20% increase in time

767
00:35:38,833 --> 00:35:40,033
spent on a road trip,

768
00:35:41,266 --> 00:35:42,466
it's not really a big deal.

769
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,266
Okay, so I already talked about the charging stops on the reverse trip,

770
00:35:46,266 --> 00:35:49,033
so there's really no point getting too deep into the weeds there.

771
00:35:49,333 --> 00:35:51,100
It's the exact same process.

772
00:35:51,100 --> 00:35:53,100
I'm just doing what I was telling you.

773
00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:55,500
I'm checking the car's energy efficiency.

774
00:35:55,500 --> 00:35:58,633
I'm comparing its range estimate to my distance to go,

775
00:35:58,900 --> 00:36:02,800
and just making sure that everything looks hunky dory as far as will

776
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,433
I make it to the charger I planned to make it to,

777
00:36:05,966 --> 00:36:07,833
but I do want to give more context

778
00:36:07,833 --> 00:36:09,866
for why I decided to stop in Lafayette.

779
00:36:10,433 --> 00:36:13,733
Basically, I knew that charger was working just fine

780
00:36:13,733 --> 00:36:16,833
and there was a plug share report from a few days ago.

781
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,500
At the time, I made this video

782
00:36:18,500 --> 00:36:20,866
that said somebody had some charging issues.

783
00:36:20,866 --> 00:36:23,433
I think it might have even said all chargers are down.

784
00:36:23,733 --> 00:36:27,066
I don't remember, but it was enough of a concern that I decided

785
00:36:27,066 --> 00:36:29,466
I had better not skip Lafayette

786
00:36:29,466 --> 00:36:32,366
because if I do, I will be stuck in Remington.

787
00:36:32,633 --> 00:36:34,833
There were probably some level two chargers

788
00:36:34,833 --> 00:36:37,333
somewhere around there that I could have used, but

789
00:36:38,166 --> 00:36:40,400
it didn't make any sense to try and risk it.

790
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:43,633
And since I knew the Chargers in Lafayette were working,

791
00:36:44,333 --> 00:36:49,033
my decision was to stop there
and get effectively 60 miles worth of range,

792
00:36:49,033 --> 00:36:52,233
because the distance from that charger to Remington,

793
00:36:52,233 --> 00:36:54,633
as you might have seen, was exactly 30 miles.

794
00:36:54,966 --> 00:36:58,133
And so I wanted to make sure that I could get back to Lafayette

795
00:36:58,133 --> 00:37:00,533
if for some reason I got to Remington

796
00:37:00,533 --> 00:37:02,100
and those chargers were not working.

797
00:37:02,933 --> 00:37:04,900
I discovered on this trip that the

798
00:37:05,333 --> 00:37:08,200
the stretch of road that I was taking between Chicago

799
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:13,433
and Indianapolis still has relatively few chargers on there.

800
00:37:13,766 --> 00:37:15,633
I was genuinely surprised.

801
00:37:15,633 --> 00:37:19,066
So the gap between Remington and somewhere close

802
00:37:19,066 --> 00:37:21,866
to Chicagoland that I could actually charge was just like,

803
00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:25,000
much longer than I anticipated.

804
00:37:25,500 --> 00:37:27,733
Basically, I think it was Dalton.

805
00:37:27,900 --> 00:37:31,766
Like, if I had charged in Lafayette, if it turned out that Remington

806
00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:35,166
really wasn't working and I had to go back to Lafayette,

807
00:37:35,566 --> 00:37:38,533
then I would have gone to Dalton, Illinois,

808
00:37:38,533 --> 00:37:41,666
where the Pope is from, and charged there

809
00:37:41,966 --> 00:37:45,733
because that would have been a fine gap, but it ended up not happening.

810
00:37:45,733 --> 00:37:48,700
But I just wanted to throw that piece of context in there to explain.

811
00:37:48,833 --> 00:37:51,233
The decision to stop in Lafayette

812
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,333
was just because the Remington Charger,

813
00:37:55,166 --> 00:37:58,566
at some point in the recent past had a reported issue.

814
00:38:00,066 --> 00:38:01,966
If I had risked it, I would have been fined.

815
00:38:01,966 --> 00:38:05,600
But you know, when it's almost zero degrees Fahrenheit outside,

816
00:38:06,033 --> 00:38:08,433
it's not good to risk those sorts of things.

817
00:38:08,433 --> 00:38:09,633
So I didn't.

818
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,900
and the last thing I want to touch on before I close

819
00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:17,433
this out, is how much energy
the actual heater was using during this trip.

820
00:38:17,433 --> 00:38:19,700
I was keeping myself toasty warm in the cabin.

821
00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:22,166
I was not trying to be frugal or anything like that.

822
00:38:22,166 --> 00:38:25,366
I think I had it set to 70 or 72 Fahrenheit.

823
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,200
Typical room temperature just fell a little bit on the warm side

824
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,166
for room temperature, but it was really nice.

825
00:38:31,733 --> 00:38:34,100
And yet the cabin heater

826
00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:37,233
was only drawing about two kilowatts at the most.

827
00:38:37,766 --> 00:38:41,333
Now I'm bringing this up because the cabin heater

828
00:38:41,333 --> 00:38:44,700
can look like it sucks a lot of energy out of the battery pack,

829
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,633
especially when you start your car up.

830
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,966
Like when I'm commuting back from the office.

831
00:38:49,966 --> 00:38:51,966
If the car is sitting outside and it's cold,

832
00:38:52,666 --> 00:38:54,633
the amount of energy it takes to warm up

833
00:38:54,633 --> 00:38:57,266
a cold car is so much greater

834
00:38:57,566 --> 00:39:01,133
than the amount of energy it takes to maintain a warm car.

835
00:39:01,433 --> 00:39:03,500
Once the car is up to temperature,

836
00:39:03,733 --> 00:39:06,400
it only takes a couple kilowatts to keep it warm.

837
00:39:06,633 --> 00:39:07,733
Now, in the case of my car,

838
00:39:07,733 --> 00:39:09,100
it has a heat pump, so it's

839
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:11,733
probably a little better than a car without a heat pump.

840
00:39:11,733 --> 00:39:15,433
But in these temperatures, heat pumps tend to struggle a little bit.

841
00:39:15,900 --> 00:39:18,766
I wish I knew the coefficient of performance of the heat pump.

842
00:39:18,766 --> 00:39:22,100
That'd be really cool to know, but I just wanted to say the cabin heat

843
00:39:22,566 --> 00:39:25,200
was pretty much irrelevant to this drive

844
00:39:25,233 --> 00:39:27,600
because, you know, the two hours

845
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,433
between charging stops for kilowatt

846
00:39:30,433 --> 00:39:33,033
hours was used for heating the cabin.

847
00:39:33,666 --> 00:39:36,833
That is not even like that's

848
00:39:36,833 --> 00:39:39,533
basically what I said for the battery heater running for an hour.

849
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,466
So 14% max of each charge

850
00:39:43,466 --> 00:39:46,766
was being used to heat the battery and to heat the cabin.

851
00:39:47,133 --> 00:39:48,766
The rest of it was just to push the car

852
00:39:48,766 --> 00:39:51,366
through the very cold, very dense air,

853
00:39:51,766 --> 00:39:55,300
and I had wind in both directions.

854
00:39:55,466 --> 00:39:59,833
I just, I genuinely I have the worst luck with that with my car.

855
00:39:59,833 --> 00:40:02,433
I'm often taking trips west on I-80,

856
00:40:02,733 --> 00:40:06,266
and somehow it's like, I'll head out west and I'm driving into the wind,

857
00:40:06,266 --> 00:40:09,033
and then I head back east when I shouldn't be driving into the wind.

858
00:40:09,033 --> 00:40:11,133
And all of a sudden I'm driving into the wind again.

859
00:40:12,733 --> 00:40:15,900
It's I don't know why, but the wind really doesn't like me.

860
00:40:16,533 --> 00:40:18,600
But anyway, I'm going to close this video out

861
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,333
because, like I said, the trip back is the exact same thing.

862
00:40:21,333 --> 00:40:23,966
It's just the stakes were higher because it was getting colder.

863
00:40:24,300 --> 00:40:26,866
But what I'm doing is no different.

864
00:40:26,866 --> 00:40:30,800
I'm just seeing how much energy is the car using to go

865
00:40:30,833 --> 00:40:32,500
this speed and,

866
00:40:32,500 --> 00:40:35,366
is it getting worse than it thinks

867
00:40:35,366 --> 00:40:37,233
it will be, or is it getting better?

868
00:40:37,233 --> 00:40:39,266
And it's not really that difficult.

869
00:40:39,266 --> 00:40:40,466
It's just

870
00:40:41,266 --> 00:40:43,266
it's just something to get used to because

871
00:40:43,266 --> 00:40:48,766
it's significant that my car goes from an easy 230 miles on the highway

872
00:40:48,766 --> 00:40:53,300
in the summer, down to, as we saw from Lafayette, 145.

873
00:40:53,300 --> 00:40:57,766
150 can be a stretch when it's cold and windy, but

874
00:40:58,900 --> 00:41:01,200
just because the range dropped that far

875
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,700
doesn't necessarily mean it's such a huge deal.

876
00:41:03,700 --> 00:41:06,100
So long as there are charging stations available

877
00:41:06,100 --> 00:41:07,800
where you need them to be, and

878
00:41:08,833 --> 00:41:11,633
more and more are showing up literally every day,

879
00:41:12,066 --> 00:41:15,033
I'm going to plug a channel that you might want to check out.

880
00:41:15,033 --> 00:41:17,900
If you want to see the progress of new DC

881
00:41:17,900 --> 00:41:19,833
fast charging installations in the US.

882
00:41:21,466 --> 00:41:22,400
Really good.

883
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,133
The network architect channel.

884
00:41:24,133 --> 00:41:24,466
Sorry.

885
00:41:24,466 --> 00:41:26,400
The network architect channel.

886
00:41:26,766 --> 00:41:27,733
Walter is his name.

887
00:41:27,733 --> 00:41:30,000
I was blanking on the name of the channel for a second there.

888
00:41:30,366 --> 00:41:32,900
He does weekly reports on new DC fast

889
00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:35,533
charging installations that are really great to keep track of.

890
00:41:35,833 --> 00:41:38,533
They are literally coming in every day.

891
00:41:38,833 --> 00:41:42,000
I know it doesn't seem like we are supporting electric cars

892
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:46,133
because, you know,
we have a lot of people in positions of power right now

893
00:41:46,133 --> 00:41:48,733
who are very skeptical of them, perhaps

894
00:41:48,733 --> 00:41:50,966
because they can't make as much money

895
00:41:50,966 --> 00:41:53,666
in a world where people can charge their cars at home

896
00:41:53,666 --> 00:41:56,266
and they drive cars which need very little maintenance,

897
00:41:56,900 --> 00:41:58,333
something to consider.

898
00:41:58,766 --> 00:42:01,000
But despite the fact that we seem

899
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,000
to be very anti EV right now as a culture,

900
00:42:04,233 --> 00:42:06,766
and we removed a whole lot of the government incentives

901
00:42:06,766 --> 00:42:10,033
to build out infrastructure, or at least made the very difficult.

902
00:42:10,433 --> 00:42:12,600
It is still being built out very, very quickly.

903
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,333
The on a network, as a matter of fact,
hasn't taken any government money

904
00:42:16,333 --> 00:42:18,700
and it's one of my favorite charging networks

905
00:42:18,933 --> 00:42:21,166
because they are rolling out really fast,

906
00:42:21,166 --> 00:42:24,066
they're really reliable and they're pretty cheap. So

907
00:42:25,166 --> 00:42:27,133
there's lots of good news in this space.

908
00:42:27,366 --> 00:42:28,933
It's only going to get easier.

909
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,733
And at this point, with just a tiny little bit of thought,

910
00:42:33,733 --> 00:42:35,933
I can take my car anywhere.

911
00:42:36,433 --> 00:42:38,166
And I don't really even need to plan.

912
00:42:38,166 --> 00:42:39,900
I just need to look at the plug share app,

913
00:42:41,066 --> 00:42:43,633
monitor the conditions as I'm driving,

914
00:42:44,066 --> 00:42:46,200
and pick chargers as I go.

915
00:42:46,866 --> 00:42:48,166
So thanks for watching.

916
00:42:48,166 --> 00:42:49,366
I hope this video was helpful.

917
00:42:49,566 --> 00:42:52,100
And if you're considering an electric car,

918
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:53,500
this is the sort of thing

919
00:42:53,500 --> 00:42:56,033
you're going to have to do on road trips only.

920
00:42:56,033 --> 00:42:57,233
And keep that in mind.

921
00:42:57,533 --> 00:42:59,133
If you can set up charging at home,

922
00:42:59,133 --> 00:43:01,266
or if you have access to a charger at work,

923
00:43:02,133 --> 00:43:03,633
you're never going to use these things

924
00:43:03,633 --> 00:43:06,666
unless you need to drive far, which is exactly the case for me.

925
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,100
The closest chargers to my home

926
00:43:09,100 --> 00:43:13,133
that I actually use regularly are in Wisconsin and Indiana,

927
00:43:13,833 --> 00:43:15,733
because when you can charge at home

928
00:43:15,733 --> 00:43:17,666
or at work, it doesn't have to be at home.

929
00:43:17,666 --> 00:43:20,266
But if you can charge some where your car is parked

930
00:43:20,266 --> 00:43:22,133
and you have regular access to that,

931
00:43:22,633 --> 00:43:24,933
you're not going to use these DC fast chargers.

932
00:43:25,233 --> 00:43:28,333
You only need them when you exceed your car's range.

933
00:43:28,533 --> 00:43:32,433
And now that modern EVs have minimum ranges of 200 miles

934
00:43:33,166 --> 00:43:36,066
road trips, that's pretty much the only circumstance

935
00:43:36,333 --> 00:43:37,800
unless you drive professionally.

936
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,900
And if that is your case,

937
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,733
an EV is probably not right for you quite yet.

938
00:43:43,900 --> 00:43:47,933
But we'll probably get there because, you know, we're moving
pretty quick.

939
00:43:48,233 --> 00:43:49,466
Anyway, thanks for watching.

